Pardon My French/Costanza on Fashion

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  • One of the best interviews you’ve done! Her eyeliner is legendary. Gonna try to do this on myself tomorrow (should be interesting). This woman is so interesting, because she’s seen so much, she has a very clear perspective on how things have evolved in the fashion industry.

    Elisa – Wandering Minds fashion
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  • princessglee October, 24 2012, 7:37 / Reply

    Sharp–in style and her observations.

  • I am in love with Costanza…officially. What a wonderful and wise perspective on fashion and beauty.

    It is interesting how the pendulum does tend to swing from one direction to the next in terms of ideals of beauty. What’s new becomes old, and what’s old becomes fresh once more. What never becomes tiresome is personality, as Costanza beautifully noted. No matter the trend or season, personality is always in style, whether on or off the runway.

    Well done, Garance, as always! (As far as your outfit, you selected a fantastic one to wear for your day of multiple interviews. I have not tired of it yet!)

  • There is nothing else to add!! Her views are very neat and accurate.the question is, who made gisele bundchen jump to fame? Because I recently read an article which states that mario testino was the inly one who appreciated her when the agencies said she was not editorial, was he helped by Anna Wintour?
    Garance I loved the piano at the end! So beautiful :)

  • such an amazing video! she’s an incredible woman!

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  • Such a fantastic interview — why I love your site so much! It’s wonderful to have access to such amazing people. Thanks for sharing!

    xoChr

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  • I loved this video as it is a real treat to hear the words of an experienced and wise woman. Costanza’s honesty and directeness regarding her personal life, her knowledge of the fashion business — just fantastic!.

    I am BrazilianAmerican (born and raised in New York with my entire family rooted in Brazil) and want to add my impression of Brazilian culture in regards to the “mating” game. It seems to me that the pressure for women to be young looking to “compete” in this game is much greater than I see here in the U.S. So much so that I perceive Costanza as a very brave woman to have gotten to a place where she chose to know and define herself, rather than be pulled apart by this cultural bias. I may be wrong about this, but I think that Costanza’s stand is unusual in her culture. It is truly admirable and something I aspire to.

    Thanks so much for this interview, Garance!

  • Dear Nansosi, that’s how I view it too. It takes a lot of guts – I just deeply admire her…!

  • It’s always a pleasure to hear Costanza talking about fashion.

  • I agree…..and to add when u see celebrities waring spring/summer 2013 it’s defaulting.

  • She is so SMART.

  • Extra smart !

  • I love Costanza. She’s wonderful!

  • I think I love her.

  • J’ai beaucoup aimé cette interview de Costanza. Je pense que c’est une personnalité atypique. Lorsqu’elle a parlé de sa séparation avec son époux, j’ai trouvé sa décision très brave. Je pense que même nous aujourd’hui sommes incapables de faire le choix qu’elle a fait.
    J’aime beaucoup sa vision du temps, car lorsqu’elle parle de vieillir c’est du temps qu’elle parle. L’effet du temps sur son corps et son esprit, et c’est justement parce qu’elle est consciente de cet effet et n’essaie pas de l’atténuer qu’elle a autant de sagesse d’après moi.

    Ces derniers temps en regardant les reviews des défilés de cette saison, j’ai eu la même réflexion qu’elle à propos de la dépersonnalisation des modèles sur les podiums. Je me demandais du coup si cela n’avait pas un impact sur la façon de percevoir le vêtement au moment du défilé. Je n’ai pas (encore) eu l’occasion d’assister à des défilés, et c’est pour cela que je suis curieuse. Si le modèle n’a plus de personnalité qu’en est-il du vêtement alors ? Car dans mon esprit même si un vêtement est beau c’est le/la modèle grâce à sa personnalité qui lui insuffle une seconde vie et fait qu’on le trouve magnifique.

    Merci beaucoup pour cette belle interview Garance !

    Shug Avery du blog Incognito

    http://www.thinkincognito-eng.blogspot.com

  • ps : j’ai oublié de préciser que j’aime beaucoup ces posts où tu mets les commentaires que tu as trouvé intéressants ça donne encore plus matière à réflexion et surtout ça prouve que la mode n’est pas vide de sens !

  • Costanza is really a fascinating character. I love the way she interprets fashion into her own personal style. It is refreshing to see someone so confident in themselves, especially in our trend worshiping society. Obviously, we all could stand to learn a lot from her. Classic…

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  • Such quiet intelligent elegance…such beauty.

  • Lucy fernández October, 24 2012, 10:19 / Reply

    Just worked 13 hours, came to your blog and just smile, it is a lovely talk between two lovely and talented people.

  • Costanza is an amazing woman! I am Brazilian, and I’m really proud to have such an extraordinary, respected and smart figure representing Brazil in the fashion industry worldwide. Great video Garance Dore! I love you texts and insights.

  • Quand j’avais 19 ans (j’ai maintenant 63), j’ai rencontré une personne comme Constance Pascolato qui a complètement changé la vision de moi-même et mon avenir! Pour moi, c’est la principale force de votre entrevue: Constance est un merveilleux exemple pour l’avenir des jeunes femmes!
    J’aime les sentiments que j’ai essayez de vous connecter à votre site! Merci!

  • Pardon my french! je suis italien…

  • The first time I read about this beautiful Lady was here in your blog and with this interview I felt that kind of respect and admiration only a women of her wisdom and experience deserves. Garance I enjoy very much each Pardon my french episode and would like to watch more interviews with your friends and fashion collègues, don’t know why you didn’t play as a tv host before?! you are so good at it! It feels really natural and you look really pretty! The evolution from the first PMF episode to this one is notorious so I hope you continue that way. My best wishes and congratulations because THIS is your moment!

    G.F Marti

  • Wow! She is such an impressive lady! So deeply observant, insightful and articulate. So great!

  • Beautiful interview! I strive for her elegance!

    Theresa
    http://bomamma.blogspot.com

  • Again…..excellent interview and a something a little nostalgic feeling. Rare women!

    blogette: http://intrigueimports.wordpress.com

  • Great interview!

    It mist be so nice to talk and discuss with her!

  • Xiaosquared October, 25 2012, 1:39 / Reply

    wise words and blunt words. really really enjoyed this interview Garance! Wise women with strong opinions are sexier than skinny girls in victoria secret lingeries..

  • If we could all age so beautifully and stylishly. She reminds me of my grandmother – stunning and dignified. Exactly the lovely definition of what it means to be a woman. Let’s all aspire!

    Thank you for sharing!

  • What a wonderful and wise woman! It’s so interesting what she says, I could listen to her much longer! Personality is so much more important than anything! I think it’s actually the real luxury in life…..what is a woman with expensive designer clothes but no personality? A hollow and shallow fashion figure, not interesting at all. “They want personality….” was that you or Costanza saying that? Let’s hope that “having personality” is going to be more important than having long legs ;-)
    You Garance and Costanza, you both got a lot of personality :-) and I love that more about you than your fabulous clothes. xxx

  • Don’t you think that’s one of the best things about PMF? In still photos everyone can look interesting, especially if they are wearing outrageous clothing, but Garance takes us one step closer and reveals more truth. In this case, they are both revealed to be treasures!

  • Une semaine que je pense à ce sujet du luxe, ne trouvant pas vraiment de bonne réponse. En nous livrant une phrase, en reprenant un commentaire et au final en nous présentant cette interview de Costanza en deux partie, tu as fait un remarquable travaille de teasing.
    Lancer de nouvelles pistes de réflexion et montrer que la mode ce n’est pas que des images, je me réjouis de la suite au vu de cette semaine.

  • Une encyclopédie vivante de la mode ! :)

  • Love her!

    Just wondering, did you guys touch the lovely fruits in the end? :)

  • Very much to the point! Congrats!

  • J’adore!

    Seul bémol: ça me tue de vous voir devant ces magnifiques fruits rouges et pas en manger une bouchée… On dirait que vous partez en les laissant là. Pour moi ça représente un coté de la mode que j’aime pas trop.

  • C’est vrai qu’elle est très smart, et je l’adore parce-que je comprends tout ce qu’elle dit, sans traduction !!!!!!

  • Truly inspirational!!

  • J’ai vu la vidéo d’hier et après avoir revu celle-ci, je trouve que Costanza est une femme très humble et chic, elle nous encourage à être nous-même, ce que nous avons tendance à oublier, elle a l’air d’avoir une personnalité bien ancrée et me donne envie d’être comme elle à son âge!

  • Merci pour cette très belle conversation, Constanza incarne la sagesse. Sa vision de l’industrie de la mode et de ces acteurs est très juste.

  • Garance c’est le meilleur entretien de toute la fashion week : cette femme est incroyable ! Tellement pédagogue et clair dans ses propos que je pense montrer l’interview à mes étudiants !

  • Super intéressant. Toi et ton équipe vous améliorez de jour en jour, bravo !

  • I love this interview, she is super chic and intelligent.

    One thing I do not understand is what she is saying about Gisele Bundchen…Anna Wintour made her the new sexy girl, but really she just confirmed what Vogue was criticized for? Gisele is not like the 80s supermodels, she has a masculine face and a boyish body. She represents exactly what Clinton was talking about. Seems like she is saying Wintour did a smart thing? But making a ‘sexy’ ideal out of a boyish shape is just what they shouldn’t have. None of today’s supermodels has the appeal Claudia Schiffer, maybe except Candice Swanepoel.

  • C’est un vrai délice de l’entendre parler. Je préfère ces derniers PMF où tu parles avec des gens de l’industrie. C’est enrichissant d’apprendre leurs expériences et points de vue. Je souhaite aussi te féliciter avec le nouveau site!. En toute honnête au début j’étais assez sceptique, je le trouvais trop ‘magazine’. Maintenant que je m’y suis habitué je l’adore! Je redécouvre des anciens postes, j’aime beaucoup les petites notes que tu inclus et cette sélection de commentaire que tu trouves intéressant. Au-delà du blog classique j’ai l’impression que tu as vraiment envie de créer un vrai dialogue. Keep up the good work!

    Petite question je m’étais inscrite à la newslettre mais je ne crois pas en avoir reçu une à ce jour…ou je me trompe?

  • This is a fantastic interview especially as we start forgetting about the history and how much it is still influencing us. I think it is so interesting how she sees the models from the 90’s compared to the one we have now. Costanza is telling us things we normally could only know when we reach her age. Madrid Street Style http://madrilicious.com

  • Rosa Paula October, 25 2012, 6:50 / Reply

    I so want to be like her when I grow up! Constanza is iconic! And what a great perspective on fashion and the world. As a brazilian I’m proud to see this true woman, a woman that really own herself, out there. Thanks, Garance, for the great interview!

  • love this lady.
    nice interview – very interesting aspect of the fashion world and how it changed.
    cheers, s.

  • Quelle classe !
    Cet entretien est riche d’enseignements, je n’en reviens pas qu’elle se soit confiée aussi naturellement et aussi sincèrement à toi (et à nous du coup ;))
    On la sens sereine et toutes ses failles sont les plus belles aspérités de sa personnalité
    J’adorerais avoir sa force, peut-être au fil des ans ..

  • Carlota de Sá October, 25 2012, 7:11 / Reply

    I wish the interview was muuuuch longer! It seems that she has so much to say and even while talking to you can see how elegant she is not trying to say all that I’m sure she knows in a hurry…not trying to impress. Slowing down and taking her time is exetremely elegant for me. True true Woman! Thank you Constanza, you are beautiful!

  • I loved it!!!!
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  • It’s so lovely to hear Costanza speak, she is so wonderfully eloquent! Thanks so much Garance for giving us the chance to catch a glimpse of the real people behind the photo’s we so often see. Merci!!

  • I watched this interview about 10 times today! And learned heaps! I’m ready to age gracefuly and be proud of my age and experince in front of much younger coleaques… and just live to be happy not to be succesful…
    I recently learned a lot from your interviews, the best thing about your blog is you let us interact with wise women!
    Xs

  • claudia toledo October, 25 2012, 8:35 / Reply

    J`AIME Constanza (:
    Je suis brésilienne et a chaque fois que je l`ai croisée a Sao Paulo, elle était plus belle, et plus élégante!

  • Très intéressant !

  • On a tellement envie que ça continue….un peu plus de Costanza :))

  • tiphaine October, 25 2012, 9:15 / Reply

    comme c’est agréable d’entendre un discours aussi intelligent sur l’évolution de l’industrie de la mode. Une grande dame aux observations acérées et justes.

  • Oh goodie! Part 2!! :D

  • i think this one is by far my favourite video, every word comes from her mouth is inspirational!

  • Oh my God! Did I forget to THANK YOU COSTANZA for this interview?!! Shame on me!

  • Hi Garance!

    Thank you for giving us wonderful interviews that leave me, as a woman, feeling empowered and thrilled to embrace age gracefully. Love Costanza!!

    I wanted to ask you Garance, if you could please, pretty please, make a video of how you make your hair bun? I love how it looks, so feminine, so chic and so careless and not stiff. Please please?

    Also I wanted to tell you the first thing I noticed about you ages ago when I started seeing your photos around were your hands. I’ve always been drawn to hands and thought you had such beautiful feminine hands. It was funny to see your post about how you hate your right hand. I see no difference at all. I suppose we each see ourselves very differently from how other see us. Your gestures and long lanky beauty (you look tall) is very beautiful, and I wanted to compliment you on how pretty you are, your gestures and your way of carrying yourself, and the way you talk. I am 39 and a mom to girls, and you inspire me so much!

    Thank you again and really, please, show us how you do your hair?!

    XO
    Jane

  • Flor Álvarez October, 25 2012, 11:14 / Reply

    She is fantastic and she has a very interesting life. If you want To deep in her life I recommend you her daugther’s blog, called Consuelo blog. Please, go there and click her mother’s name: Constanza Pascolato and you can discover a real human being

  • What an inspiration. What a presence. This was a great interview.
    It’s so refreshing to hear women talk about skinny models from an unbiased perspective. So many women blame the girls and project their own insecurities on them. I loved hearing her learned and factual take on the question.

  • I love her! This really makes me want to age with dignity and style. A very smart woman! Thank you for sharing.

    Best,
    Carin

  • Un peu convenu

  • Marion B. October, 25 2012, 12:05 / Reply

    Cette femme est très inspirante (et HYPER intéressante) ! Thks :)

  • très belle interview!
    les phrases sont posées, le rythme lent, les mots choisis… je trouve – en ts cas c’est mon cas- qu’on est über attentif à ce qu’elle nous raconte, bien sur ce qu’elle dit est très intéressant mais je pense aussi que son élocution n’y est pas étrangère ;)

  • When I first saw her pictures I thought photographers were using her for the cliche “fashion at any age” story. I’m so glad you decided to interview her and let her personality truly shine, this is by far the best interview yet! She’s pure class.

  • Perfect and lovely interview. Great.

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  • Ok j’aime tous les PMF et toutes tes interviews mais il est certain que cette interview est celle que je préfère et de loin! Un petit cours d’histoire de la mode contemporaine merveilleusement raconté par cette grande dame, passionnant!

    x

  • Antonella October, 25 2012, 2:12 / Reply

    Garance!
    Merci, merci, merci pour ces petits bonheurs quotidiens que tu nous offres. Depuis maintenant 2 ans, j’ai rendez-vous tous les jours avec ton blog et tous les jours, j’en retire le même plaisir. Merci.
    Costanza est un petit miracle à elle toute seule. C’est vraiment un modèle pour moi et j’espère que dans 50 ans je pourrais dégager cette même sérénité et confiance en moi.
    xx

  • Nini Piccola October, 25 2012, 2:19 / Reply

    Too short video!!!! Costanza has seen it all!!! Very elegant while remaining modest which is a rarity in today’s world… She is correct about luxury being kaput – when it is mass produced and is no longer rare AND it is merely based on astronomical prices, it loses it’s luxury “aura”. I’m also frustrated by the big conglomerates control of fashion companies. I used to be able to travel and find unique items not available at home. Now every high street is the same… Boring.

  • Catherine October, 25 2012, 3:06 / Reply

    Hats off to you. This is a lovely interview, with real insight beyond fashion to the very roots of culture. I also applaud you for wearing the same outfit in these videos. It’s as if you’re saying, “It’s about the interviewee, not about me.” So, so classy. And the outfit is cute, BTW. Bravo!

  • Very interesting lady! I was glad to hear her comment on luxury in the context of the entire interview (which actually sounded more like a fascinating lecture on fashion history)!

    I may be repeating what other have said but I deeply think that this interview is by far the best you have shared with us. Costanza discusses many ‘contentious’ topics ‘sans fard’ and she is naturally opinionated and at ease with herself and her ideas. I think that unlike some of the other interviewees that have graced you videos (I won’t name names…) – she has nothing to sell us – nothing to prove us and this is extremely refreshing.

    Do continue to keep us on our toes by introducing us to such fabulous women(and men) that truly have something to say.

    Thanks and all the best,

    Jessik

  • amazing! she is great. mxx

  • OMG! She’s amazing! I saw her once on St Honore, some weeks ago…she is stunning! She makes you (me) look forward to growing old.

    http://www.stylishevafter.blogspot.com

  • T’es mignon Garance d’être toute émue à la fin…
    Mais la question phare reste : comment vous avez pu rester aussi longtemps devant une telle assiette sans la manger ?
    Et aussi : comment on sort de l’ère où on trouve la même chose partout sur la planète ? Comment découvrir des petits créateurs locaux et doués n’ayant pas accès aux FW ? Parce qu’on porte un peu toutes la même chose à force, et on repère un peu toutes la même chose (comme ta chemise Piloto que tu portes tous les jours depuis 2 semaines) (hahahaha non je rigole, je la veux en bleu, je suis juste envieuse !)

  • COSTANZA PRESIDENT.

    What an extraordinary woman. She is a great example on how intelligence can come across through style and allure. Everything in herself seems to be congruent: she appears honest, witty and very strong. Thank you Garance for sharing such great examples of personalities who go above and beyond the scheme of the Fashion industry, while knowing the rules and playing with them.

  • She is such an inspiration! I needed this interview-turning 60 soon and feel so lost….

  • Aujourd’hui, c’est le jour de mon affreux oral d’anglais devant un auditoire expérimenté et hostile. dans deux heures… alors pour me donner du courage, je me suis cachée derrière mon mascara ET j’ai mis un pull à manche courte par dessus ma chemise (oui j’ai piqué votre idée mais c’est si joli, chic et cool à la fois ! Je le referai souvent !).
    Pendant ce temps je réfléchis à votre article sur avoir une garde robe avant le job. Je vais bientôt faire mon entrée dans le monde des musées et je ne sais pas comment ça s’habille, ces drôles là… !

  • D’accord je me lance. Pour la première ce sera plus long que trois ligne :)
    Je dois encore revenir vers cet article qui me chipote depuis que je l’ai lu, ce qui coïncide avec ma présence à Paris et un grand questionnement qui s’en est ensuivit portant sur le luxe. Garance, tu disais que des fois il fallait investir dans le luxe parce que le status social passe ‘malheureusement” par la vue, et si on est bien sapé, on se crée de meilleures opportunités de travail. Toi même tu a dis ‘malheureusement’, ou ‘ça va pas changer demain’, sous-entendant qu’il serait bien si ça changeait.
    C’est ça, justement. Mon esprit égalitaire se cabre. Je veux crier à haute voix: Comment ça, ‘malheureusement’, mais faisons quelque chose, révoltons-nous!
    Mais moi non plus, je ne me révolte pas de mon côté. Je regarde ton blog. Je suis la Fashion week.
    Comment réconcilier ma joie de regarder les gens qui ont du goût, et un style avec le fait d’être consciente, qu’ils dépensent des sommes incroyables pour un vêtement d’un jour, sachant qu’il y a les gens qui vivent dans une totale pauvreté.
    Comment peut-on continuer à se donner du plaisir de cette façon si on sait que c’est totalement démésuré.
    Comment dire: Non, je ne vais pas regarder les blogs et je ne vais pas m’intéresser à la mode parce que c’est superficiel, si, en même temps, regarder les blogs et voir les gens d’exprimer leur créativité par les vêtements me procure de la joie? Ce qui est beau me fait bien au coeur, alors même si la mode est trop chère, je n’arrive pas à en décrocher comme s’il s’agissait d’une drogue.
    Je tourne en rond, et c’est exactement ce que je ressens.
    J’ai ma petite solution qui passe par les entreprises de mode fair trade, écolo, les petits créateurs, mes vraiment petits… mais la folie de la Grande Mode me trouble.
    Quelqu’un aurait-il un conseil à me donner?

  • Wonderful… fashion history alive!..Thnx
    Diana
    http://www.intothefashion.com

  • One of my fashion icons of all time. She is unique!

    http://stylebeginsatforty.blogspot.it/

  • I love the music on all your video’s! You should post plylists for us too! :)

  • I’ve always loved seeing her in The Sartorialist… And now this interviews… It just makes so proud to be brazilian! Did you guys speak french when the cameras werent on?

  • Quelle femme merveilleuse!! Quel recul sur elle même et le temps qui passe!! J’aimerais déjà avoir cette sagesse.
    C’est étrange comme cette interview fait écho au livre que je lis : Christian Dior et moi, La biographie que celui-ci écrivit pour les 9 ans de sa maison, quelques temps avant sa mort. Il y parle justement de la façon dont il choisit ces mannequins et comment pour lui ces robes ne prennent vie que sur la bonne personne.
    En effet comme Constanza et les autres personnes au dessus, je trouve que tous les mannequins sur les shows se ressemblent et qu’elles sont fades. Si on rajoute à cela la tête d’enterrement qui semble de mise…
    Je regardais dernièrement Fashion !! sur Arte sur la mode des années 80 et quelle énergie et quelle joie de vivre se dégageait des mannequins et des shows!!
    Peut être le cycle reviendra-t-il en arrière…
    En tout cas j’adore tes vidéos et la nouvelle tournure de ton blog. Bonne continuation

  • What a woman. I think she sets the stake high for us, how we want to grow older.
    And the interview was really great, too. I could see that you have a lot of respect for her, love that, it makes it so personal and authentic!

  • Luba Zhezmer October, 27 2012, 9:34 / Reply

    Absolutely the best interview you did by far! BRAVO BRAVO!

  • Juste 10000 mercis pour cette conversation.

  • I loved this interview. Every time I hear these women talk with you, I feel like a self esteem boost come from the screen. They are involved in fashion, but they are always looking to see how fashion fits in their lives. We have to find clothes that help us tell our story, not the story of the designers.

    Thank you Garance for sharing their (and your) wisdom with us.

  • Garance! I love the music that you use in these videos :)

    What is that lovely jazzy bit at the end called?

  • A clash of elegance of two generations – you and Constanza! Wow!

  • Thank you, I loved this. Et j’adore ses lunettes – trops chics!

  • Thank you so very much, your blog is truly worth coming back to day after day, your kindness and humbleness connects people with such elegance and grace very interesting relevant interviews/posts.

  • To start, you always has such a lovely, easy way of addressing the people that you’re interviewing, even though they tend to be total icons that would send most into a bumbling stupor. You always approach your job with such a humbled nature that is thoughtful to the interviewee, not allowing for the fueling of the mythology that surrounds a persons status in the fashion world.
    And Constanza, oh Constanza, such an incredible woman wrapped up in that confident coolness that just seeps into everything she’s wearing, even the air that moves around her just seems to slow down to soak up her presence.
    There was something that really struck me about the way that she was talking about the evolution of models. It is such a prevalent question that seems to require sensitive answers that have been regurgitated numerous times in slightly different arrangements because people are always tripping over all the stigmas of healthy weight and body image, which are entirely necessary but there isn’t a way of entering into an actual consideration of why. Constanza however addresses the question in a rational way, laying out the history of how the styles have changed from the push for fresh ideas from a younger generation in the sixties to the supermodel troupe in the 80’s, heroin chic in the 90’s, to the now ‘depersonalized’ models, which she claims are bringing the attention back to the clothes rather than focusing at all on the models who wear them. Because of this logic, the question feels solved and so brings any further investigation into the evolution of the model figure appear redundant.
    And anyone who can pump out a theory like that while looking so good is alright with me.

  • J’aime beaucoup sa vision des choses!

    Théa Unknown
    http://theaisunknown.blogspot.fr/

  • That was so enjoyable! I am having a really lovely time discovering your wonderful blog. It is a joy to explore. Merci beacoup.

  • Itw très intéressante !
    Merci Garance,
    Bise.

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