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I loved talking with Wes. He knows every single magazine, always tells me the best blogs to look at, the best people to meet, and we could talk for eight hours about an editorial or its mise en page.
We have the same passion for images.
(We have a person in common too, very dear to our hearts: his fiancée, Delphine, who’s also my friend and agent…)
His job is fascinating: he works at powerHouse, a New York publishing house and he oversees every book A to Z.
I wanted to ask him some questions to find out more about his job that he loves so much and his evolution in a world that is increasingly dominated by the internet…
What is your job title?
I’m an Associate Publisher at powerHouse books.
So tell me, how did it all start?
I started looking at magazines at a very young age. My mother and my sister got all of the women’s magazines and I loved looking at all of the photography and clothes. I grew up in Fargo and there’s not a burgeoning fashion movement there, but I knew I had a real interest.
I was also looking at beautiful photography books from Irving Penn and Avedon and really cherishing the object of it. Flipping through the pages and seeing a beautiful picture of that size is when I knew I wanted to do coffee table books.
So how did you end up at powerHouse?
A week after I graduated from college with an American Studies degree, I moved to New York City. I also have a very deep passion for jazz, so I worked at Jazz at Lincoln Center for about a year. Then September 11th came and there were layoffs. Then I got a sales job at Fendi, where I was able to witness the reality of what it’s like off of a sales floor.
I still really wanted to try publishing. So I got a job at Random House doing library marketing—marketing books to public and university libraries. That was good enough for me, just to get in the door.
I had this great interest in imagery and photography, and Random House does a lot more cookbooks and novels. They’re not known for the kind of books powerHouse does.
So I took a position in sales at powerHouse, all the while hoping that once I got into this world, I could start eventually scouting and editing books, which is what I largely do now. I still do sales because we’re a very small company, but now I get to do a lot of going out and finding projects for us.
How small is small?
There are 4 of us at powerHouse books and we do about 20 books a year.
Since you guys are such a small company, as an associate publisher, what exactly is your role?
We all wear various hats, but basically I work on the front end of the book.
That means getting the book, so meeting potential authors to figure out what we’re going to publish. If I have acquired it, then I work a lot on the editing. If I haven’t, then we have another editor in-house who looks at every project.
So what’s an average day like for you at the office?
I’m online all day. My work day never stops, when I wake up in the morning I get online and start looking for projects, when I go home at night I’m doing e-mails all the time, on the weekends too.
And then it’s just doing the day to day: looking at sales, looking at our inventory, making sure that our reps have the material that they need, being in touch with our sales team. But the more fun part is searching for projects.
I’m also in conversation with Craig [publisher of powerHouse] all the time, looking and saying “Oh this account ordered this many books, this account returned this many books.” We jump all over the place, old books, new books, and future books.
What’s the most challenging thing about your job?
How slow it is to make a physical book.
What do you like most about your job?
Meeting with perspective authors.
How do you find all of your authors and projects?
Tumblr is huge. (You can see Wes’ Tumblr here) I scour Tumblr all the time. I’m constantly looking in people’s archives and archives of museums online. I’ve found projects by getting a snippet of something and then going right to the artist’s website. I mean it’s never been easier. I can do it all within 5 minutes of when I see something. It’s a real luxury.
So, how do you think the Internet has changed the publishing industry?
With all of the rapidity and flow, there is something new coming out every day and things become old so quickly. We used to get about 3 months for books to be on bookshelves when a new book would come out, we now get about 4 to 6 weeks before they start coming back. And we’ve put 9 months into it, so we put our heart and soul into it, and money into it, and here you go world! And nah, they aren’t interested. They want to know what’s next.
But there’s nothing we can do. We have to adapt. If I were sitting here bemoaning that, then I’m in the wrong business.
What about the benefits of the Internet in the publishing industry?
To have a whole backlist–I mean hundreds of years–worth of books at your fingertips to look at. It’s huge.
So what do you think the book of the future is?
I suppose more interactive. I think clicking on a picture and getting a back-story, maybe getting an author commentary, that’s the book of the future. It doesn’t appeal to me that much at this point, but we’re open to it.
What about books on tablets as opposed to magazines?
Yeah, it’s coming…as soon as someone breaks open with an attractive, and a really lovely experience, similar to holding a book. Soon we’ll all have to do every book digitally.
What do you think the downside of having books on a tablet is?
It makes our nine-month project even more ephemeral. Because now you’re not even holding anything, now we’re not even picking the paper, the cover, the cloth—all of that which makes it a real object that you want to put on a coffee table that makes it a coffee table book. You lose that on an iPad. Which is fine for a lot of people but books are like vinyl records now; there will always be a group that wants to have them.
What do you think makes a book successful?
Timing it with what else is going on in the world. And interest. People need to know about it. If no one knows about the book…
So which book do you think has been your biggest success?
Take Ivy. I really like to have a book come out before a trend peaks, but that whole American prep thing was at its peak and it had all of this excitement around it. I knew it would be successful, but it’s been very, very successful for us. It’s lead to some interesting projects coming up that I know we wouldn’t have gotten without it.
What about a project you pushed really, really hard for and failed?
We did a very charming book on a guy who has a Tumblr site, really, really popular called Scanwiches. He makes sandwiches and then cuts them in half and puts them on a scanner and scans them, so the visuals are beautiful.
The moral of this is—and this is a big thing: blog to book doesn’t always work. You can have all of these online fans, but when it comes time for them to pay for something, it can be challenging. That’s something we’re discovering, along with other publishers.
What’s the best piece of advice anyone has ever given you?
My step dad told me, “when you think you’ve done everything, it’s an extra 10% to make a project go from good to great.”
So the question that everyone wants to know: how do you find the people that you hire? What are you looking for?
We look for a passion (there’s not much money in this) so you’ve go to love books.
And then, I look for someone who is engaged with what’s going on culturally and when you’re dropping those references they understand them. Everyone in every department in our office should know what’s happening, it helps and it makes us stronger as a company.
Thank you Wes! And to finish, here’s Wes’ reading list!
Favorite Magazines: Pin-Up, Paradis, 032c, Apartamento, AGMA, Log, Another Man, A Magazine, Self Service
Favorite Books: Male/Vince Aletti, Concorde/Wolfgang Tillmans, Not an Object. Not a Monument/Tony Smith, Bettie Kline/Richard Prince, half awake and half asleep in the water/Asako Narahashi, New
Topographics/Britt Salvesen, Firework Studies/Pierre Le Hors, The Cultivated Life/Jean-Philippe Delhomme, 9th Street Run Down/Christopher Wool, Marriage/John Stezaker, Bird/Roni Horn, Self Portrait/Lee Friedlander, Taiji Matsue/Taiji Matsue, Tauba Auerbach’s books from Deitch Projects, the “in almost every picture.” series from kesselskramer, David Markson’s last three books, anything about Cy Twombly
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Very interesting article, it’s fascinating to see how the internet has become such an integral part of people’s jobs in literature, arts, retail ..etc. I also spend most of my day on the internet looking for new designers and brands for our store; the constant stream of creativity is a amazing but a bit overwhelming somethings.
Elisa Eymery
Wandering Minds
http://www.ourwanderingminds.com
Ça fait très “Vita, la Vie Légère”…
Merci beaucoup pour cette interview très intéressante.
D’ailleurs, on aimerait beaucoup connaître votre avis sur notre dernier numéro ! :)
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Personne inspirante que je ne connaissais pas. Merci pour ces portraits, Garance!
Gaby Lang,
http://gabylang.blogspot.com
Oh ! Un homme dans ton blog ! C’est génial !!
http://www.younglington.wordpress.com
Fascinating interview, especially pertinent to those of us who also spend a lot of our time working on the internet.
http://styleseer.blogspot.com
Great article and profile! Great to have an exclusive insight into the publishing world! Thanks for sharing! xxx
http://aurelieandangelo.com/
Très intéressant, … le monde de l’édition reste un mystère pour moi et post me donne quelques éléments de compréhension.
G.
xx
This gives me a glimmer of hope that there could be a coffee table book of your illustrations, photographs and stories in the making…recently manicured fingers crossed.
Je ne connaissait pas cette maison d’édition ! Je vais jeter un oeil ! Merci pour cette interview littéraire !
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absolutely fascinating!
i am in completely accord with some of his comments about the fear of transience in publishing, in book production. while the internet is, obviously and without saying, a marvelous and brilliant tool and resource and force, the sort of attention deficit in the public that has come with the advances is troubling. the focus on any one subject, one item of importance and beauty, seems to be diminishing.
thank you for sharing his experiences, very excited to see what new projects are in the pipeline for powerHouse.
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Thanks for the wonderful introduction Garance. :)
xoxo
~Natasha Fatah~
http://www.natashafatah.com
à quoi référe la vague “american prep” ?
Nice ! http://fut-il.com/il-aime/722408.html
I love this! His job sounds wonderful.
MErci pour cette interview garance!! c’est absolument fabuleux de découvrir de nouveaux métiers et de lire tes interviews sur des gens passionnés!!
Garance- even if I’m not familiar with some of the people you interview, it’s always so interesting to hear them talk about their career, what they’ve learned, and what (often serendipitous things) brought them to where they are. Thank you for sharing this with us! It’s wonderful!! xo
This is my dream job! Thanks so much for this post!
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He is a ray of sunshine – thanks for sharing!
It’s amazing when someone is able to trasform the passion of a life in a real work!
I hope I will be able to do the same!
Kisses
Silvia
http://bornineightytwo.com
What a fascinating read! Thanks for sharing!
I, for one, don’t think I’ll be able to read books on ‘tablets’, I like the feel of paper, flicking the page, the smell of the book…so much more than just words!
xx
http://brigadeirochoc.blogspot.com
http://www.peutetremagazine.com
Bel entretien! J’aime bien ses principes et sa volonté de s’adapter… Et puis cette exigence palpable: on a toujours l’impression que les choses doivent pouvoir se faire en un jour. Il est bon de rappeler que ce n’est pas le cas!
This was such an interesting interview and so engagingly written, I can fully understand how you two could be talking all day! The enthusiasm really came across, thanks so much.
http://www.emmamiranda.com
Wow, this is probably one of my favourite posts on careers! Thank You so much for sharing that.
ohhh, he is stunning…and there is something Japanese about him;)) Or is it just me?? His shirt looks a bit komono-like:)
well, I can say with pride that I’m one of those persons that still want to have books physically!! And I love to see that there’s still people that has that passion to create books…
http://brandnewbyanna.blogspot.com
Très très intéressant! Ces posts “career” sont vraiment top.
Interesting article, Like the advice his Dad gave him! It gives me strenth to carry on with my style coaching blog and images… I have also such a passion for images….love taking my own of beautiful women to my blog. So exited to see you next post.
Kristina X http://www.stylefig.com/blog
Haha, c’est génial “vous pouvais” — je n’avais jamais remarqué sur tes vidéos un accent du sud, mais c’est c’est une coquille qu’une nordiste ne ferait jamais ! Lovely :)
(sinon super-interview et recos !
Interview très chouette, merci.
J’aime beaucoup sa thématique ; les questionnements autour du livre papier / numérique m’intéressent. De mon côté, j’ai un grand amour du livre papier, ce qui ne m’empêche pas de me pencher sur la question de l’avancée du numérique.
Le parcours de ton ami est un exemple très instructif à lire.
Merci pour ce partage,
Nathalie
Son métier a l’air fascinant !
xx.
Passionate people… It is so inspirational talking to/about them!!
I like this extra 10% he was talking about to go from good to great! So true!
Thanks for sharing this great interview ;)
Xx
http://murmureparis.wordpress.com/
Garance, I really appreciate this series! With so much youth unemployment going on in the world these days, it’s wonderful being inspired to think bigger and to see how creative types find their way in the world.
Muah!
thefrancofly.wordpress.com
Passionnant et très courageux d’exister dans l’ombre d’internet. Neuf mois pour faire un livre et risquer que tout soit balayé en quelques semaines … grand respect pour ces amoureux du papier !!!
I love editors! They do such a great work! With all this e-book fever, Iwonder if there is going to be editors to help us readers, to guide us in this crazy “everyone can have their book in internet” thing.
I have known Wes for almost thirty years, and you captured who I know him to be perfectly. What a great article. It is truly wonderful to know that the possiblity exists for people to create a life out of what one loves to do and how they would chooses to spend their time. The key is that he chose happiness over paycheck, and passion over promotion. You can see the direct effects of these choices in his cheery, sincere disposition. Thanks for writing this.
Charmant :).
PS : Quel est ton travail ? (et non quelLE).
Super interessant !
Par contre : “vous pouvez” et non “vous pouvais”…
This gives me hope.
x Peter @ http://low–couture.blogspot.com
I immediately thought like @Serdane^^
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Great interview, too!
This was great – such fantastic insight to what happens behind the scenes! No matter what, nothing beats a REAL book!
Passion is everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xo
m
Super article, c’est toujours un plaisir de te lire et là en l’occurrence de découvrir un métier plus que passionnant, ça me fait plaisir de lire ces lignes car j’aime aussi énormément ‘les livres d’images’ comme il les appelle et de découvrir un métier auquel je n’avais pas pensé :) peut être un jour …
merci !
bises
I loved!!!
Kisses the Brazilian Girl… Karoll.
http://karolisthenewblack.blogspot.com.br/
Fascinating!! Makes me want to learn even more about the publishing business. I never considered how huge the internet must be for sourcing future projects either. I guess there’s always something new to know!
Très intéressant. Cela semble être un métier passionnant, j’ai suivi Wes sur tumblr. Et grâce à ton article, je vais m’intéresser plus en profondeur à ce job et à ce qu’il fait! Merci beaucoup Garance, très enrichissant.
what an incredible history! such a powerful man and entrepreneur. thank you for sharing this with us!
xx, http://wordbyjessie.com/
I love your career posts Garance! Please continue with them!!!
By the way, I know Wes says not many people would buy content published from a blog because they don’t want to pay for it but I would totally buy your book if you decide to publish one. And I think everyone would agree with me. Please consider publishing a book and filling it with your lovely illustrations and tips!
Kisses
Jenny
Very interesting!
http://www.rng-fashion.blogspot.com/
does not hurt that he is so handsome…….
xo
m
I am somewhat biased about this man, because I gave birth to him, but it is a very realistic article. You really captured his spirit, his passion for books and reading, and his inquisitive, sharp mind. One thing about Wes DelVal that is so refreshing is that he is the same person all the time. I find that to be a wonderfully stable attribute that is uncommon today. Thank you for the interview, you really captured him. His Mother, Bonnie
These career posts bring so much hope for us!!
Greetings from Santiago, Chile.
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Thanks Garance! Good to know what publisher is exactly doing!!
enfin un homme !!! rétrospectivement je me rends compte que ça me manquait… :)
These articles are always incredibly interesting. thanks !
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fashion & lifestyle in Belgium
Très sympa ce post sur un monde passionnant, plus que les images (que j’aime beaucoup), plus que l’écriture, j’aime lire, j’adore lire et je suis une inconditionnelle du livre objet, du livre papier. j’aime les magasines dont j’ai parfois bien du mal à me défaire. Bref, grâce à cela, je m’évade et je voyage (un peu comme avec tes posts sur d’autres pays). Merci à Wes de nous avoir fait partager un peu de son univers !
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bonjour Garance !
très intéressant, cet article. je travaille depuis un an dans une librairie où nous vendons des livres anglais et français et Take Ivy se vend bien à Berlin aussi…
bises.
Ca fait plaisir de voir un homme ici :) et de surcroit intéressant!
son job à l’air hyper intéressant et me fait un peu rêver!
Merci pour ce portrait!
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Je suis une accro de la lecture, et le métier d’éditeur m’est déjà passé par la tête, mais j’ai l’impression que les places dans ce métiers sont très rare, et puis je me vois pas passer mes journées sur l’ordi.
Merci pour ce portrait!
Oh! merci, super intéressant, et c’est sympa de voir des hommes dans le blog aussi de temps en temps :)
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I am a book reviewer, so thank you so much for featuring someone in the publishing industry! =D
This guy should run for office !
I am so thankful for this interview…
I love how you ask how they get into it – and they explain their struggles and uncertainties in the beginning. As a graduate student with an at-times hopeless and mediocre future, I am inspired by your blogs and the people in it who follow their passions and make happiness with their work in life. I really appreciate it.
You yourself are an inspiration…
love it!!!!!
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Il a mon job de rêve! Je vais essayer d’en connaître plus sur PowerHouse… Merci Garance!
Interesting man!
http://www.fotoestudio.es
Really really interesting post..I’m trying to follow quite the same path, getting closer day by day to what I love the most, words and fashion. What I appreciate in general is perseverance..do you have passion for something? Are you willing to make sacrifices? I personally think you’ll get it what you want..
http://www.forgetaboutfashions.blogspot.com
Passionnant !!
http://whichclothestoday.blogspot.fr
very interesting man!
It is interesting what he said about someone developing a more aesthetically pleasing tablet. I love the aesthetics of books and don’t think I can ever give them up. So many bookstores are closing, and it makes me so sad. I love browsing through real books. But it is hard to convince people to pay for something these days. Actually, the Kindle/iPad/tablet takover is making me rebelliously want to buy a lot of “real” books. I don’t want to be sucked into technology.
– Meredith
http://www.findingsoulbalance.blogspot.com
Love the post, the passion. As much as I love my iPad and the Internet-it’s sheer convenience… A world without books would be too sad to imagine…
It’s nice to see someone succeed doing what they love.
J’ai achete Take Ivy sur un coup de coeur il y a 2 ans de ca et je trouve ca amusant de voir aujourd’hui son editeur sur ton blog… S’il n’avait pas mentionne le livre je ne l’aurais pas reconnu.
Le monde est petit !
Chère Garance, merci beaucoup pour ces posts “carrières” ! Ils permettent tout à la fois de rêver et de se remettre positivement en question et en mouvement par rapport à son quotidien professionnel. En tout cas, c’est l’effet que ça me fait ! La passion, l’investissement sincère, l’application, la curiosité et l’audace “paient” ? En cette période de nouveau challenge personnel et professionnel, cela fait du bien de le lire ici !